I typed it all out but there are typos and stuff but it’s the middle of the night so……….here’s a kitten.

“now i realize we’ve been at this for some time already, but at the rise of derailing the dialogue you initiated, and you may i just say how thrilled i am that you did, karat, i would just like to qualify my entire analysis of your “altering culture” by saying that in contrast with life on beforus, while your people may have been engaged in violent, lethal class struggle for millions of sweeps, by no means does this imply that the beforan way of life was entireely without problematic elements, perhaps even more disturbing and insidious for their lack of acknowledgment and open discussion, particularly as a consequence of what in my view were widely and dismayingly unexamined systemic social injustices resulting from the entrance power dynamic in play, dynamics strikingly similar to those of your planets markedly more bellicose interations, which has only served to fully vindicate my hypothesis that suck a hierarchy is really predicated on intrinsic dysfuctions, and failure to shift all the unusual narratives and undiagnosed problems into an open, judgment-free discourse though which problematic issues are constructively channeled into more intelligently problematized avenues of discussion.

now before i continue, it is only decent of me to warn you about certain triggers that are surely ahead in this essay. i mean conversation. triggers include but likely will not be limited to class oppression, culling culture and clench against grubs, lusus abuse, complementary and analogous hate speech, pail filling, slurries and other concupiscent fluids, lifespan shaming, albesint slur, prolix dissertation… actually, maybe it would be easier for you to list your triggers, and i’ll do my best to avoid these topics, or navigate them more delicately, if at all possible?

#TW #oppression #culling #grub violence #lusus abuse #hemophobia #pails #slurries

karkat: 

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great. it sounds like you don’t have any triggers, at least none that you know about. i’ll proceed with caution never theless. just please let me know if you start tfeeling triggered by anything i’m saying, and we can take a brief time-out while you summon your moirail to help pacify you., i assume you have one. not that i’m presuming you do, but i heard that you did is that correct? if not, i apologize. i further apologize if your orientation precludes the possibility, as a pale aromatic, pan quadrant demireomatic something in grey palesexual department or such, and hopefully you are not triggered by suck presumptuous concillianormative language. it wouldn’t be the first time i was guilty of suck a inexcusable micro aggression, and i am not so oblivious to my own romantic privilege to believe it will be the last time either. 

#Concillianormativity #micronaggressions #rom privilege # presumtuous #morirails.

karkat:

I am glad i brought up the subject of unexamined privilege, because it dovetails beautifully with the point i was about to make regarding before society and its savage umbral potentiality which later manifested though the kind of Alternian brutality you are all too familiar with. those in the higher echelons of the hemospectrum such as the ceruleans, or “blue bloods” (careful, being loose with cuck terminology is opening the floodgates to a whole host of toxic signets language and hermophobic slurs), when addressing the challenges faced by these lower on the spectrum, suck as the mid hues or in particular warm castes like umbers, ochres, or “rust bloods: (another slur, highly problematic, deeply offensive and triggering terminology strugngly imploring you steer clear of this term), they would be well advised to check their cerulean privilege, particularly before dismissing hardship or marginalizing claims of oppression, which can be difficult for them to identify or empathize with form their advantageous position within the beforan/Alternian power structures. 

#dovertails#problematic#power structures#toxic signets language

Karkat: 

and some may argue that in out peaceful “utopian” culture that we have freed ourselves from injustice and disparities in privilege in a post-scarcity economy, largely equal rights distributed across the hemospectrum, and therefor exist in a “post-spectral world” (laugh out loud), and therefore there is no need to champion important social causes and there is nothing left to debate, but really nothing could be further from the truth. you just need to educate yourself and carefully investigate the longstanding power dynamics in play. for instance, a seemingly “harmless” remark from a cisblooded cerulean toward an umberr or god forbid a burgundy or yes even a warm-identifying physically-cooler caste, about their very long term future plans such as on the order of centuries, then this may prove to be a very hurtful microagression due tot he fact that low hues cannot possibly live that long themselves, and the more privileged caste could easily outlive dozens of generations of madhouse or hundreds of generations of BUOYs (burgundry-umber-bchre-yellowgreens, note please avid describing the lattermost as “lime bloods” as it has historically been used as an especially vicious epithet). suck remarks can further trigger painful reminders of how cooler castes, to some extent OJAs, but CIPs and Royal-VS in particular, have been able to use their tremendous lifespans over the millennia to gain and stranglehold over the social order, have been able to completely dictate our societal evolution by ensuring only their cultural agendas and narratives receive the dialogue’s air supply assuring the codification of those resultant ideals and deciding what “normalcy” entails, and sadly these absolutes become internalized across the full spectral range, even within those of mose compromised privilege, and so you begin to see the cyclical nature of the dysfunctional and the resulting inertia against positive change and raisin awareness of the most underproblematized issues, which i think we can agree, is pretty problematic. 

#post spectral world #lol #BUOYs #OJAs #CIPs #Royal Vs #narratives #agendas #narratives 

KK: 

and really, it’s everyone’s business to examine their privilege, even burgundies, who may be subject to the pitfall of believing incorrectly there are none in the scale beneath them whom they enjoy certain privileges over, which off-spectrum trolls will never know, suck as those identifying as otherbloods or caste-multiples, “polyblooded”, any who hemoglobically ID has having a caste which manifests nowhere (as yet known) in anyone physically or for that matter off specs who physically do process such a blood type, or “mutants” (VERY problematic term, highly triggering to some, be warned), suck as you and i, karat. but this puts us both in a situation which to out knowledge uniquely allows us to understand and empathize with tragically underprivileged and unempowered groups across all scuttlers of life, thus affording us both what i like to call a “uniquely underprivileged privylege”, which, yes, is a kind of privilege we should both strive to check as well, whenever we can. this same uniquely underprivileged perspective as i’m sure you know was disadvantage upon my post-scratch iteration as well, and while i have no doubt you justifiable came to revere that figure off your palnet’s rick history and your personal lineage, and while his goals of peace, equality, and a truly spectra blind society, i’m afraid i personally have trouble condoning his methods. i don’t like to use the term “problematic” lightly, but, well, his attics were nothing if not massively problematic, to say the least, employing violent uprising to effect change, and embalming his mark upon history and his faithful followers with the salty flourish of a single rude, shouted swear word, it’s not to my taste even though he is who i would have grown up to be in another life. but no, i prefer to effect social change though rational, honest discourse and contributing to ongoing dialoges, focusing on what should be the real goals, though keen adherence to the discipline of problematic, ensuring that we stay focused on successfully problematizing a wide range of direly under complicated social dilemmas.

#undercomplications #salty flourish #rude shouted swear word # spectralbrind society

KK: 

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It’s nice to see we agree on so much. maybe we are not so unalike, despite our drastically different upbringings. anyway, as i was saying, the story of your ancestor, and more importantly my exhaustive list of misgivings with his approach to social change, is quite a long and elaborate one, but it actually fits brilliantly within the larger mosaic which captures the broad strokes of my post. i mean out discussion. Trigger warning for the following content include: ancestor bashing, faith shaming,  loud swearing, torture, burning wounds, ship sinking… again, seriously, just let me know if you begin to feel triggered by anything even slightly. we’ll pause and see if we can really explore those issues, and identify exactly how i may have invalidated your struggles. without further ado, the story is as follows:

#TW #ancestor bashing #shaming #swearing #torture #burns #ship sinking #struggles

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